I'd expect to lose 30-50 fps for every inch I cut off. We don't ride the outer edges of the frame's capacity (no big magnums, short magnums, etc.). EABCO Accuracy Barrel® 17 Fireball, 26'' Blue fits T/C Encore Pro Hunter, 17 Remington Fireball 1:9, Standard Model, Match Grade Barrel. Manufactured by E. Arthur Brown Company with special attention to detail, precision, and the materials necessary to enhance accuracy. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. But the .221 Fireball was originally designed as a short barrel pistol cartridge so I wouldn't worry much about the velocity loss. The 17 Remington Fireball is light on recoil, easy on powder and almost as fast as its big brother, the 17 Remington. 17 Remington Fireball. 17 Fireball. I greatly enjoy hunting with this weapon. I have actually chrono’d my fireballs and see no velocity advantage from 22”-26”. Thank you. In same hole. I have not started to reloading the Fireball ammo. I have a 17 FB in the Rem 700 SPS that has a 26'' barrel. Beautiful TC barrel. The only modification is a HS Varmint stock. Velocity is close to the .17 Remington but with significantly less powder, and therefore less heat and fouling. 17 X 28 mm. Next to none. Madison, N.C. – At 4000fps, the exciting new .17 Remington Fireball breaks the barrier for small caliber performance. I completed my zero by shooting nine round at the 200 yd target. Requires threading to the action of your choice, crowning the barrel, and chambering by an experienced gunsmith. Shilen Drop-In Match Barrel with Bolt AR-15 17 Remington .920" Muzzle Diameter 1 in 10" Twist 24" Stainless Steel Product Family #: 1003479026 Product #: 128750 Excellent quality barrel. I've managed to get 5 shot groups of .55" @ 100, and 1.70" @ 300. I think the .20 VarTarg will be on the heavy barrel simply to have an apples-to-apples comparison with the .17 Fireball with regard to manufacturing. For example check out these … Ruger, 10/22, 22/45, Ruger Precision, Ruger American, 10/22 Takedown, Mark II, Mark III, and MK IV are registered trademarks of Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc. 2000 Remington 700 17 Fireball.Heavy barrel,H-S stock,Timney trigger,tack knob,Millett 4-16 w/ lit mil dot&tactical rings.3 sets of dies,close to full case of primers,box of 20 v max bullets,4 cartr Find your best price for 17 Rem Fireball Ammo | Cheap 17 Rem Fireball Ammunition - AmmoSeek.com Search Engine 2020 Although I have not looked in the past few years, 5 to 10 years ago, I never saw a cataloged 17 Fireball or 221 Fireball AR-15 barrel for the AR-15. Yes, I think 20-22 inches threaded will be good for my purposes. Copyright var date = new Date(); document.write(date.getFullYear()) E. Arthur Brown Company Inc. All Rights Reserved. Just my 2 cents Free Bore Paste - Bore Paste assures sufficient cleaning of carbon and copper fouling for the quickest and most trouble free barrel break-in as well as keeping your barrel match accuracy clean. The item “Thompson Center Encore MGM Barrel. I'm not saying some obscure shop or a gunsmith would not cut one for you, they just are not mainstream. The 17 HM2 17 Gr bullet MV is 2100 ft/sec, The 17 HMR 17 Gr bullet has a MV of 2550 ft/sec. I love my New T/C Pro Hunter with the TC Encore Accuracy Barrel and I highly recommend it. Its nearest competitor is the Remington in the .17 Remington case, which propels the same bullet at 4,200fps. Still seasoning the barrel, but it is already shooting far better than my factory barrel. All loads/bullet weight shot excellent. I know several Varmint Hunters who use and like the 17 Fireball - it is an accurate and versatile cartridge. 17 Mach IV vs. 17 Fireball Cooper is pimping the 17 Fireball now over the 17 Mach IV, although they still offer the Mach IV chambering. If I had a can on a 17 fireball I would consider going as short as 18". 17 Mach IV. It drives a 20 grain AccuTip-V bullet at a MV of 4000 fps or a 25 grain JHP bullet at 3850 fps. With regard to the .17 Fireball, I think it's because the only 17-caliber barrels they have are for the .17 Remington which was Varmint only. Please refer to the icons in the caliber list to determine which twist rate can be used in your custom barrel. Get the best deals for 17 fireball barrel at eBay.com. I have the same gun in both heavy and standard contour barrel configurations. Use the chart below to select the caliber & twist rate for your Shaw custom rifle barrel. Running both 17 Rem and the new Fireball (17 FB), firing the same 20-grain bullet over a ballistic calculator using Remington factory figures, shows the former is the better cartridge in terms of velocity and energy at all ranges. But it has. The encore barrel you sent be is awesome. 17 Fireball in a blued gloss finish. Man, was I wrong. The .17 Fireball's rim diameter is .378", head diameter is .375", shoulder angle is 30 degrees, cartridge overall length is 1.83" and it uses small rifle primers. These are then Two-Pass button rifled in the various twist rates we offer to suit particular accuracy requirements. Barrels in these calibers are intended to be handload-only. Vented Forearm . I would not hesitate to buy another one from Eabco. Barrel shoots very well using 107 Sierra Match bullets three shot groups average 1/2 - 3/4 MOA with little effort on load development. Shot was 342 yards. And we lean toward chambers and twist rates that are already proven accurate. I will definitely be a repeat customer and highly recommend them! The FB is a very efficient little case. The .17 Fireball is a typical bottleneck, rimless cartridge. Please complete the fields below to send your friend a link to this product. 17 Mach II. 17 Fireball 22 Blued” is in sale since Tuesday, October 13, 2020. I would not declare the 17 Remington Fireball dead as yet but it is "in jeopardy". 20 BR Lapua. Already have a couple 20s, but no 17s. I’m starting to draw some interest in the 17 fireball, looking to get a custom barrel on a savage action. Do it. They do top notch work and the proof is in how it performs. Gun scoped with your Brown 4x -12x variable. Shot was 342... Buck Dropped in his Tracks! I disagree with the last post but often do when coming from this individual. We will contact you as soon as this product is available. If I was cutting and threading mine, I think I would go 21" in the heavy barrel and 22" in the standard to provide better balance. I would make it a 24 and not thread it.....personally. I am very impressed with the Encore pro hunter in 6.5 BRM. Remington Model 700 17 REM Fireball 26" Barrel with Heavy Varmint . I don't as a rule share my hunting experiences but thought I would make an exception. Thanks. We use the best Chromoly steel alloys. These 26" heavy contour, factory blue Encore barrels fit the TC Encore "Heavy" forend as well as the Pro Hunter rifle forends. True, center-to-center chamber reaming insures centering and linear alignment of the chamber with the bore. It's the choice of serious shooters....Complete Instructions Included.Dealer Inquiries Are Welcome! Seems to like 130 grain Berger hybrid with 39. shootai: So... you are saying you have added or subtracted "length" to a particular 17 Remington Fireball Rifle and the "velocity" did NOT change with 4" added (or subtracted!) Great cartridge and fun. Berry happy guys. Shot about three inches lower than chart at 300 yards using EABCO loaded ammo. If I was not using a can then then 22" to 24" barrel length is what I would be looking at. Chambering Philosphy - We try to offer our TC Accuracy Barrels® in chambers with the best potential for accuracy. This barrel shoots top notch. The item you are trying to purchase is currently out of stock.Please enter your name, email, and phone number below. Bore dimensions are reamed consistent to airgauge within .0002" (2/10,000ths) of proper bore dimension. After your break in recommendations, I tried several test loads. That the 221 Fireball ever made it into this world is unusual. 20 PPC. Product looks great on my receiver, and accuracy is great. Since factory ammo is available now I think it would be a good choice. My custom built Remington 700 in caliber 17 MachIV (the 17 Remington Fireball twin) has a heavy Shilen stainless barrel that I requested to be made at 26 1/2" long! Ok, I just zeroed my T/C Pro Hunter Blue Rifle Frame w/Flextech Stock, TC Encore Accuracy Barrel with the JP Howitzer Brake installed, and TC Encore and Contender G2 Action Job or Trigger Job. My 17 Remington barrel is a Shilen barrel that I bought through Midway at the time. Manufactured by E. Arthur Brown Company with special attention to detail, precision, and the materials necessary to enhance accuracy. The 30 grain gold has as high of a BC as the 40 grain 204 Vmax bullet. Drilled and Tapped: Scope base and for Rifle. Even less velocity could be lost with 25 grain bullets in shorter barrels, I suspect, but I have a 17 Remington for those. 5 hrs of H4350. My thinking is it's free additional velocity and the extra mass aids in stability of sight alignment while firing afield. "Factory loads drive a 20 grain bullet around 4,000 ft/s. My last shot group of three rds placed two through the same hole and were dead X!!! I wouldn't mind going 20'' if it doesn't screw up the balance. Good luck. To some extent I suppose some loads may be more prone to loosing velocity than others beyond 18" of barrel length. Due to the small bore diameter, clean burning powders are preferred to reduce fouling. I was shooting your 140 grain ammo. ‡ The 45-70 US Government when used in the classic Contender or G2 actions should be limited in pressures by utilizing original Marlin Model 1895 loading data. The .17 Fireball can muster the magical 4,000fps velocity from a 24in test barrel with a 20-grain V-Max bullet. 17 Rem. 20 Tactical. If you pick up some of the 30, 27, or 25 grain gold bullets from Todd Kindler it can make the .17 fireball a real contender in the .204 realm. True, center-to-center 11ø target crown, applied after finishing, insures that bullets exit the barrel with perfectly even gas pressure. The 20-grain AccuTip-V leaving the muzzle at 4,00… These blanks are the foundation of our process.One at a Time Barrel Making - True, center-to-center barrel turning at a rate that minimizes stress while keeping the bore in the middle. Imp. Good to hear that. Sighted in with four shots. I've decided to cut mine at 21" in case I'm not shooting suppressed. I am very happy with purchase. 24" is PLENTY in the Fireball. Feel free to use our online barrel builder, or shop our on-hand inventory. Specializing in Thompson Center Contender Barrels and Thompson Center Encore barrels. I have 17 FB in 14", 15", and 22" aftermarket Contender barrels, as well as a 24" Remington 700. The heavy contour is very front end heavy so I thought about cutting mine down just for better balance. Probably you would lose less than the variation between shots. 17 BR. Fireball 17 Mach IV "Match" 17 Mach IV 17-222 17 Javelina 17 Remington 17-223. Shilen's barrels have probably set more world records than any other barrel made, because so many shooters rely on them. Today the cartridge remains popular with hunters/varminters, both in the original version, and with wildcats such as the .20 Vartarg and .17 Fireball. Wonderfully accurate and very clean with no rust. Paired with the Model Seven, which has a barrel of just 20 inches, the cartridge still managed to top 3,750 feet per second. I have bought other stuff from them and the orders are always correct and they ship fast. The shorter handgun barrels give up 250 fps over the 24" with 20 grain bullets, and the 22" actually shoots a hair faster on average than the 24", but it is a Bullberry, with a minimum chamber and a hand-lapped bore. Only Remington can match this extremely fast, highly accurate and flat-shooting caliber with the legendary “out-of-the-box” performance of the Model 700™ and Model Seven™. From the 26-inch, heavy-contour barrel of the Model 700 SPS Varminta new version of the Model 700 SPS upgraded for pest and predator control but still carrying a reasonable price tag of less than $650the .17 Remington Fireball repeatedly delivered muzzle velocities that were slightly higher than the factory-touted 4,000 foot-per-second mark. from a particular Rifle? Fits Savage 10/110 Series Rifles; Fits Savage Axis Short and Long Action Rifles; 26" length, weight approx 3lbs; Varmint weight tapered to just under .800" diameter at muzzle; Bore dimensions reamed consistent to airgauge within .0002 (2/10,000ths) of proper bore dimension. October 17 2006. All match and select match barrels are air gauged on sensitive equipment and stress relieved at the factory. I was actually thinking I might cut it to 22" and have it threaded. The .221 Remington Fireball cartridge was developed by Remington in 1963 for the XP-100 bolt action pistol. What velocity will I be prone to lose by cutting down to 24'' and having it threaded? That it later gave birth to even more cartridges is rather remarkable. Based on the .221 REM Fireball necked down to .17 caliber. 17 Remington Fireball has ~ the same velocity and trajectory. Drilled and Tapped for a scope. Using a slightly modified 221 FB case it is similar to the popular 17 Mach IV wildcat cartridge. Savage Accuracy Barrel® 17 Rem Fireball 1:9. I think Thompson should start buying their barrels from them. The fireball has almost zero recoil, has less report, and takes less powder. If you were to obtain a Rifle in 17 Remington Fireball you could always get 221 Fireball brass and form it to 17 Fireball. Considering that I can't get anywhere close to … We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! It has a case length of 1.41" compared to the 1.796" case length of the earlier .17 Remington. 20 VarTarg. OSU Sig: My factory stock Remington 700 VSF (Varmint Synthetic Fluted) in 17 Remington Fireball has a 26" barrel - and I prefer it that length. I think, .17 fireball, I would go about 18-20" if fitting a suppressor, 22" if not, no longer, maybe 20", kind off, depends on the type of small game shooting, your doing, shorter if your a walk abouts, kinda guy, longer barrel, for set up and snipe. Twist rates must correspond to the calibers listed. Here is a picture of a nice South Dakota mule deer I shot November 22, 2014. As efficient as the 17FB is, I don't think an additional 4'' is going to buy me much additional velocity. Each chamber's headspace is checked and confirmed with gauges. These machinists can produce the best custom built TC Contender barrels on the market. 17 Remington Fireball 1:9, Standard Model, Match Grade Barrel. This cartridge shows mild recoil, high velocity, with minimal report". 17 Rem. The .17 Fireball ameliorates some of the drawbacks of the bigger .17 Remington. 20 X 28mm The eabco accuracy barrel is perfect, so perfect it's making hand loads hard to build. Buck dropped in his tracks. 17 HMR. Using a 250 yard zero, at 300 yards the drop of the Fireball's 25 grain bullet is only 0.3" greater than the drop of the same bullet fired from the .17 Remington. Grouping less than 1/2 inch at 100 yards. The .17 Remington Fireball was created in 2007 by Remington Arms Company as a response to the popular wildcat round, the .17 Mach IV.Factory loads drive a 20 grain (1.3 g) bullet around 4,000 ft/s (1,219 m/s). Blue TC Encore Accuracy Barrels® by EABCO17 Remington Fireball 1:9, Standard Model, Match Grade BarrelTC Encore Accuracy Barrels® fit the TC Encore and Pro Hunter frames. Target Contour Remington 700 Synthetic Varmint Stock "Textured" Finish . 435-628-0071. Lapua started making superb .221 Rem Fireball cartridge brass starting in 2014. 17 Caliber – 1:10 twist ... 17 Jet 17 Rem. The 17 Fireball 20 Gr bullet has a MV of 4000 ft/sec. Last Friday took a 10 point whitetail with neck shot at 380 yds. As I think through this, I am of the opinion that the velocity loss won't be too much a factor as my shots are under 300 yards and most are under 250. If wanting to thread and shoot suppressed I would consider a 20” gun. If I was in your shoes, I'd probably go 20". I had a problem that was 100 % my fault and these kind folks were 100% accommodating in taking care of my problem. TC Encore Accuracy Barrels® fit the TC Encore and Pro Hunter frames. The number in the box corresponds to the number of inches per complete right-hand twist. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I have owned a 17 HM2 and 17 HMR rifles since they first came out and this past spring got a Remington 700 CDL SF Limited Edition 17 Fireball. Both are important issues to high-volume shooters such as varmint hunters. (You can tell an EABCO Accuracy Barrel by the bright metal crown). The real reason I am leaving a review, however, is to say that the customer service at EABCO is absolutely the best. 17 Ack. I love it and thank you for the great service. 17 RF Mag. This is using the 25 VMAX and Benchmark. Hornet. Bore is well taken care of and cleaned gently to maintain accuracy. After breaking in with 20 rounds.. put 3 Berger 105 gr. Here's Why They're Accurate: Precision Barrel Blanks - An EABCO barrel blank is precision gun drilled from the best Chromoly and Stainless steel alloys. I was hesitant at first because of the price. Your friend will receive an email from you with a link to our site. Easiest to understand is the 17 Fireball and/or 17 Mach IV, so called because it could push a 20-grain bullet about 4,200 fps, nearly 4 times the speed of sound. Hey guys, i've got one of the Remington 700 SPS in 17 Fireball. 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